During the second Vatican Council, a Cardinal from Belgium shouted “Why are we even discussing the future of the Church when half the Church is not even here?” Referring to the lack of women religious on the Council. 23 women were then appointed as auditors

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12 thoughts on “During the second Vatican Council, a Cardinal from Belgium shouted “Why are we even discussing the future of the Church when half the Church is not even here?” Referring to the lack of women religious on the Council. 23 women were then appointed as auditors”

  1. Ootachiful

    > The Second Ecumenical Council of the Vatican, commonly known as the Second Vatican Council, or Vatican II

    new vatican just dropped

  2. jrh1234567

    Anybody got a name for the Cardinal?

  3. Gemmabeta

    Auditors: translation “seen but not heard”.

  4. simloi

    A drunk Irish voice yells from the back, “That would be an ecumenical matter!”

  5. Kwajoch

    > At the end of the second session, Cardinal Leo Joseph Suenens of Belgium had asked the other bishops: “Why are we even discussing the reality of the church when half of the church is not even represented here?”, referring to women.

    Why did you change it to say he shouted?

  6. Shin-LaC

    If you look at the countries with the most progressive clergy, it’s more like 90% of the church that’s not there any more.

  7. Fuzzy-Function-3212

    I can’t be the only one who read “half the church isn’t even here” and assumed he was trying to heal the East-West Schism of 1054…

  8. the_knocker_of_farts

    I love how the Vatican will do *anything* to fix its image except, you know, doing something about their rampant pedophilia problem.

  9. [deleted]

    Fast forward to 2021

    “Why do we bother when 90% of the Church is never here on any given Sunday?”

  10. MoonDaddy

    We’ve had one Vatican, yes, but what about Second Vatican?

  11. Simply_Cosmic

    I mean if we’re speaking strictly half the church I don’t think half the Catholic people the world over could physically fit inside the country of The Holy See let alone the city of Rome.

  12. Zorops

    And they make fun of me for enjoying Science Fiction.

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